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MEETING
DATE: December 4, 2002
The Schuylkill Township Board of Supervisors held their
regular meeting on Wednesday, December 4, 2002 at 7:30
p.m. The meeting was held at the Township hall. Members
of the Board present were Mr. Vutz, Mr. Ryan, Mr. Walters,
Mr. Ledbetter and Mr. Colket. The Township Solicitor,
Mr. Sugarman, and the Township Engineer, Mr. John Sartor,
of Gilmore & Associates, were also present.
Public Participation: None
The minutes of the November 6, 2002 Board of Supervisors
meeting, the November 13 and November 18 Budget meetings
were received and approved on motion by Mr. Ledbetter,
seconded by Mr. Colket, and passed.
Mr. Walters read the Treasurer's report. On motion by
Mr. Walters, seconded by Mr. Ledbetter, and passed, the
report was approved as received. There is a total of $1,871,756.89
in the various accounts of the Township. A budget meeting
has been advertised for possible adoption of the budget
on December 18 at 7:00 p.m.
Bills were presented and reviewed. On motion by Mr. Ledbetter,
seconded by Mr. Colket, and passed, the bills were approved
for payment.
Reports:
Police - posted. Mr. Ledbetter stated
that the Township received notification from PennDOT
that preliminary engineering has begun for the Route
29 reconstruction project with construction expected
to start in 2005. The improvement is for approximately
three miles of Route 29 between Charlestown Road and
Pothouse Road in Charlestown and Schuylkill Townships.
Mr. Ledbetter stated that he has received verbal notification
from the DVRPC that the South White Horse Bridge may
be reconstructed in the near future.
Roads - posted. The township has received
a letter from Mr. & Mrs. Dolan of 61 Oakwood Lane
requesting that the road surface be textured at the
bend in the road near the intersection of Freedom View
and Oakwood Lane. Mr. Cinciripino, the Township Roadmaster,
stated that he is checking with Asphalt Industries as
to the feasibility of tarring and chipping during the
winter. He stated that another option is milling which
he does not recommend. Mr. Colket suggested placing
a 15 mph sign below the curve. Mr. Fetterman, the Township
Chief of Police, stated that speed limit signs should
be placed above and below the curve. Mr. Fetterman stated
that since the signs are advisory they can be erected
without an ordinance. Mr. Vutz advised that the Township
should hold off on the oil and chip since it may not
bond to the road in colder weather. Mr. Cinciripino
stated that the oil and chip would be done in the summer.
On motion by Mr. Colket, seconded by Mr. Ledbetter,
and passed, the Board authorized payment for the FL60
Dump Truck for $85,200.
Fire - posted. Mr. Beittel, the Township
Fire Marshal, stated that the Fire Fighter of the Month
was Mike Matta. Mr. Beittel stated that the new fire
engineer went into service on December 1. Mr. Beittel
thanked the Supervisors for their support in making
sure that the hydrants on the Valley Forge Christian
College Campus are operational. Mr. Yerkes of Yerkes
and Associates, the Township Code Enforcement Officer,
was asked by the Supervisors to report on the status
of the hydrants before the December 18 budget meeting.
Recycling - Mr. Shaughnessy, the Township
Recycling Coordinator, stated that the Township had
a good turn out at the Leaf Compost site from residents
dropping off leaves and branches as well as volunteers
operating the site. Mr. Cinciripino stated that the
tub grinder shared with East Pikeland will be at the
site to grind the material that was deposited on the
three leaf drop off dates.
Planning Commission - posted. Mr.
Ledbetter stated that the Phoenixville Area School District
will be on the agenda for the meeting on December 18.
Emergency Management - nothing to
report.
Environmental Advisory Council - posted.
VFSA - Mr. Vutz stated that talks
continue with the labor union.
Joint Board - nothing to report.
Regional Planning - Phoenixville
Regional Transportation Study - Mr. Ledbetter stated
that the Township has received the draft study from
DVRPC and that it is consistent with the working sessions
held with municipalities. Valley Forge Area Intermunicipal
Planning - Mr. Ledbetter stated that there is not
much activity although the group has come out with recommendations
for roads east of the park. Intermunicipal Planning
- Mr. Ledbetter stated that the group is looking for
a "club house" and that the old municipal
building may be well suited to hold regional meetings.
Mr. Cinciripino stated that he is waiting for an estimate
regarding repair of the floor in the meeting room. Mr.
Ledbetter stated that the Township could rent the building
to the Regional Planning group for $1.00 a year. He
stated that the group is also looking for a recording
secretary to take the minutes and do clerical work.
Slip Ramp - nothing to report. The Township
Secretary was asked to contact Charlestown Township
regarding the status of the Memorandum of Understanding.
Deer Management - Mr. Goodman, chairman
of the Deer Management Committee, stated that he walked
the Pickering Preserve with Mr. Maddock of The Whitetail
Associates, a bow hunting group. Mr. Goodman stated
that a controlled hunt can be accomplished on the preserve.
Hunting would be by the professional archery group that
are registered and insured. Hunting would be between
6:00 a.m. and 10:00 a.m. Mr. Goodman advised that there
are between 12 - 18 deer on the property. On motion
by Mr. Ledbetter, seconded by Mr. Walters, and passed,
the Board empowered Mr. Goodman to organize a controlled
hunt and work out the details with the Chief of Police
and report back to the Board of Supervisors with a full
report as to what the hunters want to do but not conduct
the hunt until approved by the Board and the Chief of
Police. Mr. Morrisson of the Valley Forge Citizens for
Deer Control stated that the State has mandated that
hunters hunt at their own risk and that hunting groups
carry liability insurance. He stated that there has
never in the State been an injury to a non-hunter by
a bow hunter. Mr. Goodman advised that there is no problem
with the game commission with hunting on the Pickering
Preserve.
Zoning Administrator - posted. Mr.
Ledbetter stated that a workshop will be held on December
6 to review the proposed Township fee schedule. Open
Records Policy - Mr. Ledbetter stated that the
policy should point to the fee schedule for fees associated
with the policy. He stated that there is no regulation
in the policy as to what a person could request. Mr.
Sugarman stated that the statute is specific in that
a response to a request is needed from a municipality
in five days but the work does not need to be done.
The Township Solicitor was asked to check on the policy
regarding emails, office hours and whether or not the
fees have to be listed in the policy. Tom Potts'
Zoning Hearing - Mr. Vutz stated that there is
a history with the zoning officer monitoring Mr. Potts'
Sunoco station at the intersection of Valley Forge Road.
Mr. Vutz advised that the Township should make an appearance
at the hearing for Mr. Potts' use of a property on North
White Horse Road for a mechanic's garage to work on
vehicles. He stated that the Township should head off
replicating the appearance of the Sunoco at another
site. Mr. Vutz requested that Mr. Yerkes attend the
hearing on December 10 on behalf of the Township.
Code Enforcement - Russ Yerkes - posted.
Solicitor - School District Boundary
- Mr. Sugarman stated that he has not received signed
documents back from the Borough of Phoenixville. Mr.
Ledbetter stated that he would take the documents to
Mr. Messina, a borough council member. Public Facilities
Zoning District - comments have been received by
Mr. Sugarman. Pickering Preserve - Mr. Sugarman
stated that the Township will need Chester County to
do the proposed land swap of open space with the YMCA.
Mr. Ledbetter stated that he would contact the County.
Mr. Ryan questioned if the 20 acres to be given to the
Township for the 10 acres of the Pickering Preserve
is usable land that is equivalent to the Pickering Preserve.
Mr. Sugarman advised that the State, since they contributed
funds to the original purchase of the Pickering Preserve,
may also need to agree to the land swap with the YMCA
as well. South Second Avenue Water Line - Mr.
Ryan stated that two property owners of three properties
have declined to hook up to public water. He stated
that there is an effort on PaDEP's part to get those
homeowners to install public water. Mr. Ryan stated
that as per the Township we could force them to connect
to public water. PaDEP wants written guarantees that
there is no liability on the State. Mr. Ledbetter stated
that the Township should request a release from the
homeowners and the Township should then amend its ordinance
to exclude those property owners from receiving public
water through the PaDEP grant. Mr. Colket stated that
should those homeowners in the future want to sell their
properties, the wells will have to be tested by the
Chester County Health Department and at that time those
homeowners may need to hook up at their expense to public
water. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the Township should
respect the residents' position. Mr. Sugarman stated
that the Township needs formal documentation from PaDEP.
Supervisor Vacancy - Mr. Colket requested
that Mr. Ryan stay on the Board of Supervisors to see
the South Second Avenue Water Line project through.
Mr. Ryan stated that he would be happy to stay on.
Subdivisions:
Moorehall - Schuylkill Township has
not met the warrants to install a light at Moorehall
Drive and Route 23. PennDOT has denied the Township
twice, once on November 27, 2001 and after the Township
supplied PennDOT with additional information at their
request on September 27, 2002. The Township has held
in escrow a $50,000 letter of credit from Rouse/Chamberlin
Ltd for the installation of the traffic signal. On motion
by Mr. Ledbetter, seconded by Mr. Ledbetter, and passed,
due to not meeting warrants with PennDOT for the installation
of a signal at Moorehall Drive and Route 23, the Board
approved the release of the $50,000 to Rouse/Chamberlin.
Fernleigh - Mr. Brandolini stated
that he will take care of all the open items that are
listed in the November 25, 2002 Gilmore & Associates
memorandum. Regarding the burned area near the development
entrance on Springview Lane the Township will go to
the vehicle owner's insurance company for repair of
the damaged road. The Board will review and consider
approval of the final escrow release #21 for the project
on December 18.
Valley Forge Woods - Mr. Cappelli,
of Toll Brothers advised the Board that Mr. Jason Yancy
was not on the Homeowners' Association board anymore.
Mr. Cappelli stated that the HOA has an attorney and
he is currently reviewing the HOA's position. Mr. Cappelli
advised that Mr. Civetella has asked that he speak to
the Board on his behalf. Mr. Civetella would like to
have the stormwater work done on his property even though
the work is not finalized for the Valley Forge Woods
development. Mr. Ledbetter questioned who would own
the maintenance obligation for the Civetella property.
He stated that if Mr. Civetella is willing to accept
the maintenance, the Township needs to see evidence
that he is accepting it. Mr. Vutz stated that his flexibility
may help to get the situation resolved. Mr. Sugarman
stated that an easement also needs to be given by Mr.
Civetella to the HOA. Mr. Sugarman stated that Mr. Civetella
can give the HOA an easement without them accepting
it. Mr. Ledbetter stated that Toll's attorney should
work with the Township Solicitor to draft easement language.
Mr. Ledbetter stated that it is in the HOA's best interest
to accept the maintenance on the Civetella property.
Mr. Ledbetter stated that he would be happy to meet
with new HOA board. Mr. Vutz stated that the problem
is that the HOA is asked to take over maintenance of
something that is outside the Valley Forge Woods development.
Mr. Sugarman asked that Mr. Cappelli send him the documentation
regarding covenants for the development. Mr. Ledbetter
stated that the first casualty of stormwater problems
after the Civetellas' is roadways within the Township.
Horseshoe Pointe - Mr. Ledbetter stated
that Mr. Zoller, an adjacent property owner, has an
engineer looking at the site. A site meeting is scheduled
for December 13 with the Township engineer and developer
to review stormwater issues.
YMCA - Mr. Schaeffer stated that he
will be coming forward with a plan in conjunction of
the proposed Public Facilities Zoning Ordinance. Mr.
Schaeffer stated that the Township Planning Commission
unanimously endorsed the concept of the Public Facilities
Zoning, the land swap concept between the YMCA and the
Township and the concept of the YMCA master plan. On
motion by Mr. Ledbetter, seconded by Mr. Colket, and
passed, the Board granted an extension for review of
the land development plan for the YMCA facility located
on Pothouse Road to March 7, 2003.
Freedom Valley Girl Scouts - On motion
by Mr. Ledbetter, seconded by Mr. Colket and passed,
the Board granted an extension for review of the Freedom
Valley Girl Scout Council Land Development plan to February
7, 2003.
Valley Forge Deli - On motion by Mr.
Ledbetter, seconded by Mr. Walters, and passed, the
Board granted an extension for review of the final plans
for the Valley Forge Delicatessen on Valley Forge Road
to February 7, 2003.
Mortimer/Sparhawk Subdivision - on
motion by Mr. Ledbetter, seconded by Mr. Ryan, and passed,
the Board granted an extension for review of the four-lot
subdivision on South Second Avenue to January 10, 2003.
The consensus of the Board was not to discuss the matter
at the December 18 budget meeting. Mr. Sartor stated
that he has met with Mr. Smith of Conver and Smith and
Mr. Sparhawk to go over the recent review letter and
discuss drainage issues. Mr. Sartor advised that Mr.
Sparhawk is willing to upsize the stormwater pipe will
be increased from 15" to 18" in diameter.
Mr. Ryan questioned if any changes to the plan would
hamper the public water installation project with PSW
and PADEP. Mr. Sartor stated that he will call Mr. Smith.
Mr. Ledbetter stated that a preliminary plan approval
is conditioned upon the developer not interfering with
the water line installation. Mr. Sartor stated that
the developer and his engineer have the same information
that the Township has.
Piazza/Barnaik Subdivision - On motion
by Mr. Ledbetter, seconded by Mr. Colket, and passed,
the Board granted an extension for review of the two-lot
subdivision located on Jug Hollow Road to March 7, 2003.
Old Business:
Pension Resolution for 2003 - On motion
by Mr. Ledbetter, seconded by Mr. Colket and passed,
the Resolution Eliminating/Reducing Police Officers'
Contributions to the Police Pension Plan for 2003 as
required by State Act 600 was approved with a 3% contribution
by all employees, up from 2.5% for 2002, to the Police
and the Non-Uniform Pension Plan.
New Business: As per the agenda there
was no new business for the Board to address. However,
residents and parents of Schuylkill Elementary School
children in attendance at the meeting spoke with the Board
regarding the Phoenixville Area School District's proposal
for a new school.
Mrs. Diane Masucci, a resident of Guilford Circle questioned
why the Board of Supervisors hired a consulting firm for
$2,200 to review the elementary school. Mr. Sugarman stated
that, Vitetta, an architectural firm specializing in historic
preservation was hired to assess the reuse of the old
building of the Schuylkill Elementary School. Mr. Sugarman
advised that Vitetta is a premier firm in the East Coast
area in assessing architecture. Mr. Ledbetter stated that
the report will be made public after review by the Board
of Supervisors. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the Phoenixville
Area School District is behaving mercenary and that they
have no plans for the adoptive reuse of the older part
of the school. He stated that in hiring Vitetta the hope
was to get an objective answer. Mr. Ledbetter stated that
the PASD has zero willingness to reuse the building and
the Township had no choice but to undertake its own review.
Mr. Ledbetter stated that after the zoning hearing board
meeting, he, Mr. Vutz and Mr. Reading of the Planning
Commission has a great meeting with Dr. Noyes and the
PASD consultants for the project. Mrs. Masucci stated
that it would cost the school district $1.5 million to
$3.7 million to save the school. Mr. Ledbetter stated
that the building should be saved for a purpose and that
the school district should define what to do with it.
Mr. Ledbetter advised that the Township is not trying
to pick a fight and it is not trying to save a building
with no value. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the PASD, parents
and the Township need to collaborate to come up with a
conducive reuse. Mr. Ledbetter advised that the renovation
amount is a guess since no objective has been given for
the building. He stated that there is no relevance to
the number without knowing what renovation is needed.
Mrs. Masucci questioned if the Township had surveyed Township
residents with concern to the school and whether the building
should be saved. Mr. Vutz stated that the Township has
not done a survey but that residents could submit a petition.
Mrs. Masucci stated that her daughter currently attends
the Schuylkill Elementary School and that it is potentially
unsafe. She stated that there are exposed pipes, no security
and that children and teachers are breathing mold.
Mrs. Jeanne Schanzenbach of Nathan Hale Drive stated
that every issue ought to be explored. She questioned
where the money was going to come from to pay for renovating
the building for an adoptive reuse. Mrs. Schanzenbach
stated that the PASD is proposing to build a new building
with an attractive look. She questioned if the Township
is willing to put up money for the renovation. Mr. Ledbetter
stated that Barkley Elementary School renovation was paid
for by taxpayers from Phoenixville Borough, East Pikeland
and Schuylkill Townships through PASD. Mr. Ledbetter advised
that the concept of making Schuylkill Township responsible
for Schuylkill Elementary School but not for Barkley is
inequitable. He stated that the Township must be prudent
custodians of what it has and the Township understands
that it is using taxpayers' money. Mrs. Schanzenbach questioned
how much control the Township has with this project. Mr.
Ledbetter stated that the Township owns land planning.
If the school district stays within the ordinances those
rights prevail. Mr. Ledbetter advised that the Township
is not arguing the non-conforming use. Mr. Ledbetter stated
that the proposed 50' roof peak that is higher than the
35' allowed by ordinance in the Township would require
the Township to buy a new ladder truck and a new building
to house such a large vehicle so that the building has
fire protection. Mrs. Schanzenbach stated that people
are making assumptions with regard to the school. Mr.
Ledbetter stated that the PASD is not in a standoffish
mode and that the PASD and the Township are working together
to build a school that everyone can be proud of.
Mrs. Nancy McAvoy of Picket Post Lane questioned how
high the Phoenixville Area Middle School is. Mr. Ledbetter
stated he did not believe it was higher than 35'. Mrs.
McAvoy stated that if the project did not move forward
there will be a delay in the construction of the new building.
She stated that there are currently maintenance issues
in both the upper and lower school buildings. Mr. Ledbetter
stated that if there are health issues in the school,
the Township could close the school if it is a health
crisis. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the PASD needs to get
through the fact gathering phase including traffic circulation
in and around the site. Mrs. McAvoy questioned the reuse
of the old building considering the potential health issues.
Mrs. McAvoy stated that the PASD is trying to eliminate
the problem and are spending additional monies to have
the school tested on a regular basis. Mr. Sugarman questioned
if anyone is looking into doing more to alleviate the
problem. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the PASD is already
going to extreme lengths. Mrs. McAvoy stated that the
school is as safe as the PASD can make it. Mr. Sugarman
stated that it was his understanding that the school is
on a sound foundation and that the peripheral leaks have
been corrected. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the gating factor
is not adoptive reuse, the gating factor is land planning.
He stated that the Township collaborating with PennDOT
on traffic issues that will benefit the school. PennDOT
is currently planning for the reconstruction of Route
29 in 2005. Mr. Ledbetter stated that he has also heard
that the bridge on South White Horse Road may also be
reconstructed. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the Township
is offering its assistance to ensure that the work to
be done is enough and the best that PASD can do. Mr. Ledbetter
stated that the Township is not trying to buy more time
but it is trying to alleviate apprehension. Mrs. McAvoy
stated she wants to be sure the project is moving forward.
She stated that PASD is learning as they go through the
process. Mr. Sugarman stated that the architects for the
PASD know that plans have to come to the municipality
on a timely basis. Mr. Sugarman advised the audience that
the parents of Schuylkill School need to monitor the PASD
to make sure that they are moving forward.
Mrs. Marquart of Magnolia Drive questioned why the school
was unsafe. Mr. Ledbetter stated that he did not think
the school was unsafe. He stated that there was a period
when maintenance was done on the building and dampness
may have turned into a mold problem. Mrs. Marquart stated
that there are documents available to the public through
the PASD. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the plans were first
presented to the Township over the summer. Mrs. Marquart
stated that the timeline is much shorter than what is
being portrayed by the PASD and the parents present at
tonight's meeting. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the PASD
needs to know where to put the proposed building so that
it knows where to install the modular classrooms. Mrs.
Marquart stated that she thought it was great that the
parents are getting involved. She advised that they should
ask the PASD how long they have known that they needed
a new school. Mr. Ledbetter advised that Dr. Noyes is
taking a long term view of the school district and that
plans are running behind through no fault of his own.
Mrs. Marquart stated that there may be funding available
for historic preservation of the school.
Mrs. Judith Werner of Hawthorne Lane stated that she
would like to see a new school. She stated that the area
has a wonderful school district and she believes in Dr.
Noyes. Mrs. Werner asked that the Township and the PASD
work together.
Mrs. Beth Leech of Manor Lane stated that it is important
that parents speak out on the subject. She applauded the
Board of Supervisors for their efforts.
Mr. Ledbetter stated that Dr. Noyes has made himself
available to the Township. He stated that the PASD job
is to hire consultants to help them build a school. Mr.
Walters stated that the Township can give the PASD the
ordinances they need to go through to build the school.
Mr. Ledbetter stated that the Township has nothing for
land planning submitted from the PASD that can be reviewed
and commented on. Mr. Walters stated that the Township
hired a consultant so that it can make a valid decision
regarding the school. Mr. Walters stated that he cares
about the safety of the kids attending the school. He
stated that both he and his father before him attended
Schuylkill Elementary School. Mr. Ledbetter advised the
audience that Great Valley School District projected the
Charlestown Elementary School to cost between $6-7 million.
The project is currently at $18 million.
Mr. Stanley Martin of Picket Post Lane stated that the
Board of Supervisors is trying to help the residents of
the Township. He stated that Dr. Noyes has acquired a
problem and all the PASD has to do is ask for help. Mr.
Vutz stated that the PASD and the Township have established
an understanding. Mr. Ryan stated that the PASD should
be prepared and that the Township cannot act on unprepared
information.
Mrs. Masucci questioned why the school district needs
to do a traffic study when the building is projected to
house 120 more students. Mr. Ledbetter stated that although
the school is adding a limited number of trips the PASD
needs to look at what is happening around in the community.
Mrs. Masucci questioned why the Township did not call
PASD regarding what their plans were for the school. Mr.
Ledbetter stated that the PASD has the Township's ordinances.
Mrs. Masucci questioned why the fall 2002 newsletter advocated
a certain point of view. She stated that the historical
article was propaganda and that the newsletter should
be factual. Mr. Ledbetter stated that she cannot insult
the Board of Supervisors and he asked that she stop berating
the Township and that her comments would be duly noted.
Mr. Vutz stated that the Township will treat the PASD
like any other developer. Mr. Galloway Morris of Buckwalter
Road stated that $2,200 for a consultant was a small amount
to pay compared to the money that will be spent on the
project. Mr. Sugarman advised that people in Pennsylvania
are entitled to historic preservation by the State government
and that the Township government is there to ensure that
historical preservation is part of projects such as the
school. Mr. Ledbetter stated that the draft Public Facilities
Zoning that the YMCA has presented to the Township would
help the PASD as well by releasing it from its current
non-conforming status as well as other changes proposed
by the ordinance would also accommodate the site. Mr.
John, a former Board of Supervisor member and also a former
PASD employee, stated that he has spoken with Dr. Noyes
for a year regarding development by the school district.
Mr. John stated that they need to follow the zoning ordinance
and the subdivision and land development ordinance.
At this point in the meeting the Board went into Executive
Session. Upon their return, Mr. Vutz stated that employee
matters were discussed.
There being no further business for discussion, the Board
adjourned the meeting at approximately 11:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Mary R. Bird
Township Secretary
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